究竟應唔應該有最低工資呢樣嘢，抽水議員同中產小朋友都好支持。你作為大學生嘅中產小朋友，話呢樣嘢幫到人，所以支持，我無話可說，只能慨嘆你未明白最邊緣嘅工人，冇得上車做第一份工，就好難逃離社會安全網。
至於抽水議員，你哋根本無可理喻，民主派嘅，就一路挾民主去推自己啲害人社會主義。建制派嘅，明知會令大批新移民、學生及少數民族等變成結構性失業，不過仲開心，因會令政府投放大量資源俾你哋做職業再培訓。多一個學生上堂學上Facebook做職業培訓，就會喺之後嘅選舉少一票俾民主派。
各懷鬼胎，害咗最邊緣嘅工人。
依家政府現有嘅方案中，孫柏文最睇唔過眼嘅地方，就係邊個享有豁免。如果我問大家，叫大家估吓點解政府要豁免佢哋，你話政府會提供咩理由？
冇錯！政府就係話有好多聲音，話如果唔豁免呢班人，佢哋就會好難入到佢哋心儀嘅行業。咁邊班弱勢社群，咁需要政府嘅保護？等佢哋可以有機會向上爬？
新移民？唔係。學歷低人士？都錯。中、英文都比較弱嘅少數民族？亦都唔係。政府豁免嘅，居然係本地大學生(編按：勞顧會最近列大學生實習工作豁免最低工資)！更需要入職機會嘅中學畢業生咁點？政府、工會和抽水議員異口同聲咁叫你食自己啦！
本地大學生係咩？咪就係住私樓、理論多多、滿腔熱誠、未食過人間煙火、唔知難入職時悲痛嘅中產小朋友！豁免佢哋，等佢哋價錢上贏晒所有其他入職嘅對手，唔怪之得咁支持。人哋冇豁免，就係道德勝利，自己有豁免，就係實質需要。我今日就睇死你哋呢班大學生中，支持政府現有最低工資方案嘅一群。有種嘅，就將自己嘅豁免取消。我，睇死你哋唔會。
不過成個辯論，最可悲嘅係嗰啲明知政策會害人，由最初反對，到突然轉軚嘅人。你話好似張宇人呢啲末日政黨嘅代表，由反對，到支持最低工資定喺20元，我只可以話呢啲就係自由黨。不過有啲我好尊重嘅人，之前曾親眼目睹呢啲勞工政策為工人帶來禍害，由最反對，到一句：「政府已決定做，不如傾最低工資水平。」我就最失望。
呢位我好尊重嘅人係邊個？就係以前信共產、社會主義，不過後來親身感受到自由市場為自己及眼前人帶來生活水平提升，所以信自由市場嘅《am730》主席施永青。呢幾日睇《C觀點》，施老闆，唔好放棄，你知、我知，呢個政策對最邊緣工人嘅禍害，一定要抗爭到底。
就算有呢條法例通過，最低工資嘅水平應該係$0。噚日咁講，今日咁講，聽日都係咁講。因為我唔知我會唔會做中產，我唔想我嘅小朋友到時連博份工返來都唔得。
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一篇9up的文章,大右派的嘴臉,就是這樣.
ReplyDeleteThis is a moral and political issue; that's why Mr Sze compromised.
ReplyDeleteThe people's livelihood, you know?
最低工資，即係話如果一個人搵唔到咁某一個水平o既人工，就唔配有一份工。
ReplyDelete咁搞法，會唔會係佢地失業之後，反而會激發起佢地轉工o既動力？如果係咁，最低工資其實係加強左人力資源分配o既效率架喎。
代價係，社會上最弱勢o既市民會更易失業。而家香港肯做野的話，總唔會餓死人。但係有左最低工資之後，佢地o既生活就無咁有保障了。
我o既諗法係，其實搵得咁少人工，呢班人一早就應該被淘汰，最低工資就係淘汰佢地o既有效工具，應該要支持。
Mr. Suen,
ReplyDeleteI absolutely agree with your points of view. Besides, after the legislations there will be less job vacancies for the lower class because the cost of running business will be higher especially for those sme (small medium enterprise), some be closed finally....
I am post 70's (employees in the market), the same feelings of yours for our next generation, they will face much adverse environment in the job market....
要突顯最低工資不合理之處
ReplyDelete應倡議最低工資最少時薪一百萬
甚至時薪一億
睇吓香港到時仲有冇窮人
李卓人的33元實在太刻薄了
咁多人出來質問廿蚊張可唔可以收時薪廿蚊過活
咁不如又叫李卓人試吓用時薪33蚊過活
「政府已決定做，不如傾最低工資水平。」
ReplyDelete不過最低工資嘅水平唔應該係0
應該越高越好, 最好係100
最低工資嘅水平越高, 社會越快反映到個結果
等大家快D見到個後果
i haven't followed this debate very closely, so i have a few basic questions:
ReplyDelete- has there been any public discussion of the empirical evidence for minimum wage?
- has there been any public discussion of alternatives to minimum wage?
- assuming one is the sole provider for a family of four and can only find very low paying jobs (e.g. $20 per hour). will he be entitled to other forms of social benefits under the current system, e.g. fruit money?
s tsui,
ReplyDelete1. Who is going to do the modelling. We have pushed the govt for data, but they are answering by saying the law does not specify the level. A commission will... Therefore lets try to figure this out at the commission level.
2. Like what?
3. Income below a certain level is currently subsidized if i remember correctly. In fact thats one of the reasons the pro camp has been throwing at the business sector, saying less ppl will need welfare because income is now raised.
孫生，到底你反對最低工資還是反對那政策對大學生的括免? 如果是反對最低工資，請不要混淆視聽，折將大學生擺上抬了。另外如果實施最低工資，真的會如你所說低工資的職位會大量流失!!!如果一門生意連$33一個鐘都付不起，那一門生意相信亦穩健不了什麼，遲早都例閉了。再談回你所提出的$0工資說法，我反而希望你想一想，為什麼提出這工資為$0的議，而不說付錢上班，因按你在電台上的講法，第一份工這麼重要而且上班者是有經驗的得著，所以你是應該付回學費給老闆吧。
ReplyDelete支持孫生的想法!!
ReplyDelete其實現在是誰話想定立最底工資,是最基層的人嗎, 還是其他擁有大專學歷或以上的人
如果真的定立最低工資,你們會怎樣幫他們?
剛畢業的大學生連參加政府搞的那些大陸的實習計劃都鎌人工低,根本就自命自己是大學生不應那麼低的人工, 所以訂最低工資係$0 , 豁免所以對大學生的特權同社會上的人去競爭
試問有多少個大學生第一份工不是壓低自己的應有的薪酬呢?不如這些都納入最低工資, 到時看看你們能否在那一個行頭裏找到工作
希望你地感受一下基層没有工開的心情
基層的小巿民上
無恥!大右派的嘴臉,就是這樣!
ReplyDelete前上市公司主席黃毓民老闆就唔同
佢倡議最低工資33蚊
就一定會自己拎33蚊過活, 感受下工人苦況
仲會努力為工人創造就業
一定唔會好似奸商張宇人咁, 見冇錢賺就執咗間餐廳
黃毓民老闆萬歲!!!!
蘋果又抹黑黃毓民老闆:
http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/template/apple/art_main.php?iss_id=20100408&sec_id=4104&subsec_id=15333&art_id=13907155&cat_id=45&coln_id=20
i was thinking of something like earned income tax credit as an alternative to minimum wage. i think the purpose of enacting minimum wage, which is agreed by everyone, is that people who can find work only at the margin are often exploited for various reasons. minimum wage is only one of many tools that can be used to help them that possibly do more harm than good. a combination of eitc, revision of employment law (to reduce exploitation), stronger non-profit presence in educating and helping workers may be of better help. it is just sad to see minimum wage hijacking the entire debate about how to help those who need it.
ReplyDeletebtw, i read a well-written opinion by simon lee in next. thanks for continuing to provide a dissenting voice in msm.
如果政府要立法保障打工仔的最低工資,都應該同時立法保障做老闆的最低收入,但在此前又要保障業主的權益,我唔知邊個包底,不過玩落去就變共產.
ReplyDelete我不明白在自由經濟原則之下,立法保障應該去到咩程度.