Tuesday, August 05, 2008

德國人話:自由空氣是有煙味的

Wrote about smoking ban today at apple pie.








And here's a sample of responses... here, here.

All I can say is this

1. Nazi Germany was the first society to have smoking bans.

2. Allowing smoking is seen as more than tolerating "sucking smoke into one's lungs and blowing it into others" in Germany after WW2.

3. More people like 明光社 and HK govt wants to cleanse this society of such acts.

You can make any conclusions you want. And obviously you are making it. Keep the thinking coming.

13 comments:

  1. 所以共產黨一向都話自己係民主國家.

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  2. 差不多世上所有醫學組織(WHO,CDC,CHP(HK), etc)都認同,一手煙和二手煙同樣會嚴重危害健康.

    一手煙是個人自由,在此不談.

    問題是,如果不採取公眾地方禁煙的措施,如何可以避免吸煙者呼出的二手煙影響他人?
    要求吸煙者穿"太空衣"吸煙?設立比隔離病房還要高規格的吸煙室?

    要清楚一點:公眾地方禁煙不等於完全禁煙,這只是保護非吸煙者權利的措施.

    還有,德國所謂"禁煙法違憲"只是針對部分地方政府的餐廳禁煙法,德國的公共交通和聯邦政府設施還是全面禁煙的

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  3. As a person who suffer badly from rhinitis and second-hand smoke, I strongly agree to ban smoking in public spaces.

    People can smoke as much as they want at home. It's their own life and their can do whatever they want in their own place. Allowing smoking in public places is just like allowing eating and drinking in a subway, and talking loudly over a telephone in a library.

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  4. 所謂二手煙講法就係要挑起智能低冇思考能力蠢人嘅恐懼心理, 形成群眾壓力去反吸煙.醫學組織所謂醫學證明純粹係利用統計學方式創造數據去說明吸煙會點 " 嚴重危害健康". 吹到所有疾病之源都來自吸煙.事實到目前為止人類最大殺手癌症來源, 醫學界都未搞清楚, 只知道有癌變後就去搵所謂至癌物質, 於是乎搵下搵下搵到過萬種致癌物質, 如高溫烤麵包, 油炸食物, BBQ類食物, 醃製食物,淨係汽車廢氣都有過百種致癌物質,另外手提電話, 電視一類無線電波, 電磁場,病人X光, 電腦掃瞄, 磁共振 連太陽紫外線都可以致癌, 總括講, 現代人類生活根本避無可避.
    點解要搵吸煙做替罪羊 ? 因為煙草商係道德上毫無反抗能力企業,任由醫學科研騙子魚肉都百詞莫辯. 而且以往利用研究吸煙對健康害處嘅科研最容易申請到經費.
    如果吸煙或者二手煙真係被證據確鑿證明直接引致醫學騙子所講嘅所有疾病, 何不立例將香煙定為毒品 ? 好簡單, 因為醫學騙子所持理據完全經唔起法律檢驗. 上到法庭一嘢就被人 KO.
    有啲無腦廢物話煙草販賣帶來龐大稅收, 呢啲係屁股思維方式, 政府貪稅收何不將大麻, 可卡因, 白粉合法化 ?

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  5. 公眾場所禁煙并不單單是一個簡單的是否影響健康的問題。更重要的是在公眾場所吸煙無可避免會影響其他人,而有些人并不愿意受這種影響。

    公眾場所之所以叫 公眾 場所,就是大家都有份。公眾場所不是煙民場所。

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  6. 樓上講廢話. 照你咁講公眾場所應該禁賣禁食臭豆腐, 榴槤, 禁搽香水古龍水, 你認為香但有人認為又臭又難聞.

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  7. 咁係唔係所有由體內排洩出黎而又要強廹性輸入其它人身體內先至叫自由先?

    THIS POST IS VERY 膠!!

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  8. 你行出街所有空氣都係由其他人肺部排洩出黎而又要強廹性輸入你個肺, 你有本事就唔好呼吸啦. 或者重皮 d 自備氧氣樽好似成個潛水蛙人咁先出街啦.

    未見過有膠得咁緊要既人

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  9. 錯!!你講嗰鍾係互相交換...排洩尼古丁係單向...明未?

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  10. 唔好剩係話希特拉都做過就作為一件事係壞事既論據.

    就好似話希特拉當年都會伸懶腰, 所以伸懶腰十惡不赦一樣單薄.

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  11. 哈哈,醫學大發現. 尼古丁入肺之後就排洩番出黎. 咁尼古丁即係不被人體吸收.應該為尼古丁平反.
    係呢, 汽車廢氣會唔會係雙向呢 ?所以冇人反對汽車廢氣.

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  12. 差不多世上所有醫學組織(WHO,CDC,CHP(HK), etc)都認同,一手煙和二手煙同樣會嚴重危害健康.

    差不多世上所有郊野公園組織(WBBQO,CPPC,CHP(PK), etc)都認同,一手碳煙和二手碳煙同樣會嚴重危害健康.

    差不多世上所有車學組織(WVO,CAR,CHP(HK), etc)都認同,一手廢氣和二手廢氣同樣會嚴重危害健康.

    差不多世上所有差不多先生組織(WXO,CBD,CBLD(HK), etc)都認同,一手廢話和二手廢話同樣會嚴重危害視覺.

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