Thursday, August 07, 2008

我地香港人，幾時搞成咁？



我地幾時變成大陸人眼中既乞兒？

Where the fuck's our pride gone？
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19 comments:

  1. Sun BinThu Aug 07, 12:21:00 pm GMT+8

    那得多谢董伯伯。

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  2. AnonymousThu Aug 07, 12:36:00 pm GMT+8

    典型大陸土姥口吻.

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  3. AnonymousThu Aug 07, 06:28:00 pm GMT+8

    人家說的話有沒有道理，請各看官自行翻閱過去十年的施政報告，立法會會議紀錄，及行政會議議事紀錄。

    撫心自問，扣除中央政府"迫"我們實施的政策之後，有多少法案對香港未來發展有重要影響?

    某程度上，我認同這位"大陸土佬"的想法，亦理解外人為何會有這個印象。因為我一想到沒了自由行，沒了神州公司的IPO，沒有人民幣"半自由流動"的香港經濟，亦只有默認，近十年香港經濟(甚至社會)發展的動力，的確和中央"干預"息息相關。一個其河南老家沒有中央祝福貧窮縣的土佬會覺得我們受盡保護，看不起我們，亦可以理解...作為一個土生土長的香港人，說實話，與其說不爽，更貼切是無地自容...

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  4. AnonymousThu Aug 07, 08:20:00 pm GMT+8

    Stupid and annoying mainlanders,I m pessimistic abt HK's future,but now,they still need us,we still have our value,the companies in China still need HK as a platform to raise capital in general.
    If you feel 無地自容 that means u dont understand the situation,typical self-abased HK people.
    China's 干預 was for stabilising the political environment,increasing its controlling power upon HK,all those measures are for sure for short-term,not for 未來發展(i eman beyond the 10yrs from now),the 未來發展 of HK is to be replaced by other cities in China,cos no matter what China think HK is 'unstable' and HK is not 'son' of china as HK has been adopted by UK.
    If we dont have universal suffrage,then we cannot really hav a person who will really fight for HK interest,and we will be dispised by mainlanders.

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  5. AnonymousThu Aug 07, 10:10:00 pm GMT+8

    其實, 呢d係香港人統治香港人的後果. 政府鼓吹母語教學, 學普通話, 個個北望神州. 呢d高薪厚職的政府高官, 成日係度發放負面的末世訊息, 話香港好快玩完, 成日係度做攪屎攪屎, 唯恐天下不亂. 呢d廢柴, 就係令到香港淪落的原因.

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  6. merlinThu Aug 07, 11:36:00 pm GMT+8

    阿爺最想台灣佬都變成感

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  7. AnonymousFri Aug 08, 12:08:00 am GMT+8

    一路講一路手指指，我想叫佢去食 x

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  8. AnonymousFri Aug 08, 12:16:00 am GMT+8

    To jimjim:

    你所指的situation，可能我真的不懂吧?

    我無地自容的，是單指對"公務員/親中派治港"的失望。老董做得不好，完全同意。唐老曾上場時，亦憧憬過，之後才發現，"建華之亂"真的是親中派執政要負全責? 作為一個好奸既奸商，看見公務員質素之低，實在一次又一次o 嘴: 以ao/eo 盡收當代精英之材，結果出現如此無能之官僚...撫心自問，是否一個悲哀?

    但jimjim 兄台(不知是不是才人)指中央政府以救濟為名行分化之實，卻實在無法認同。我承認，中央政府代行的政策，只能說是"頭痛醫頭"的短藥。可悲的是，這些"目光短淺"的政策竟然是過去十年我們唯一值得一提的"發展"!! 反問，我們有做過什麼令自己可以不被邊緣化? 中央出招之前，我們有做過什麼有建設性之事令自己走出困局? 現在是中央出手帶香港出了困局，一個假設，如果當年我們能自強穩止陣腳，中央會為了分化港人堅持派糖嗎? 就算中央派的是糖衣毒藥，但選擇吃的，是港人自己。

    從鄧小平時代開始，到80年代的改革初期，中港之間的互相依存有目共睹。jimjim 指"China still need HK as a platform to raise capital in general" 不能說是錯。但發展到現在，請問，是"五行三保" 只能在港集資，還是中央要求他們來港集資? 如果國資會批准，一流的大國企在外國交易所上市，會真的不可能? 現時我們恒指成份股中有多少是高質中資，沒有它們我們的成交額會減多少? 這些都是一些事實，更不用說現在是美國錢多，還是國人錢多!

    有關"universal suffrage"，普選。煩請打開史書，看看羅馬末年的"vote and run"式普選。議員監察政治，但我們的選民有監察過議員嗎? 看議員之破壞率，及缺席率，可見一班。同時，普選可以提高官員水平嗎? 日日鬧到佢地狗血淋頭，就是辦法? 問題出在那裏??

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  9. AnonymousFri Aug 08, 12:35:00 am GMT+8

    香港人要自強，我們對國情要有基本的了解，因為今天及可見十年的世界，都一定少不了中國的份。自己的腹地也完全不懂，甚至排斥，是自討苦吃。

    但我們更要加強自己在國際的競爭力，既然全世界都面向中國，我們亦要做進入中國最方便的地方! 要做一個對老外來說，最能令他感到方便舒服的地方。要做到這一點，對外的網絡要強，對國內的網絡更要大大加強! 西部通道竟要中央出資才上馬? 白痴! 沒錢找錢也要起，要不然怎壟斷華西南之貨運物流? 中國的大學尖子，有多少要多少，最好讀完書全部留下發展。我們的上一代是內地精英，這一代也可以!!最好是要全中國面向世界最方便是在香港，不是上海北京，甚至深圳溫州! (剛從溫州回來，不能輕視呀...)人民幣不能進不能出? 如果在香港可以，這個頭啖湯才是真正的和味...

    做中國的一部份並不可恥，只要能做龍頭，何恥之有? 最怕成了牛後，就真真正正被邊緣化了......

    共勉之。

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  10. pakmanFri Aug 08, 04:49:00 am GMT+8

    the worst part is those clowns in govt and legco thinks is an achievement to get us those shits from mainland.

    Dumbass. Damn all of them.

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  11. 豺狼Fri Aug 08, 08:39:00 am GMT+8

    毋可否認，自由行對香港零售旅遊業有利，但社會卻付出不少交易成本．自從開放大陸旅客來香港自由行後，街上的乞丐多了，遊客區的扒手多了，交通工具的秩序亂了，這一切都是大城市的transaction cost，是否算是得不償失，就要看個別行業了．

    香港不是澳門，不是一個純靠旅遊業為生的城市，不需要土頭土腦的暴發戶橫行，只需要良好的社會秩序，維持國際大城市的商譽．

    而且，一般來說旅遊業佔GDP不足5%，請傳媒不要誇大自由行的經濟效益！

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  12. Raymond LeeFri Aug 08, 10:24:00 am GMT+8

    I think the guy's remark is not totally wrong. HK is already the wealthiest city in the PRC, yet its politicians and businessmen still keep demanding the Central Gov't for more and more benefits. (e.g. Olympic Equestrian event, CEPA, giga-IPOs like ICBC/CCB, etc.) Is it fair to the other poorer cities in the PRC?

    The Basic Law stated that HK has high degree of autonomy. But it is really the case in fact?

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  13. AnonymousFri Aug 08, 11:27:00 am GMT+8

    又賴母語教育. 人家日本人韓國人唔係母語係英語教育啊 ? 人家可以搞出 Toyota, 搞出三星. 殖民地遺民成世都係帶街買辦心態.

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  14. AnonymousFri Aug 08, 02:13:00 pm GMT+8

    sinseeker said:
    某程度上，我認同這位"大陸土佬"的想法，亦理解外人為何會有這個印象。因為我一想到沒了自由行，沒了神州公司的IPO，沒有人民幣"半自由流動"的香港經濟.


    兩睇啦, 自由行係因為以前一國兩制, IPO係香港有條件, 人民幣亦一樣.
    你可以話中央關照hk, 我就話係互相幫助.
    唔通開發河南自由行, 人仔去澳門開放, ipo 去晒上海??

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  15. AnonymousFri Aug 08, 08:50:00 pm GMT+8

    To 'sunseeker',
    You said '公務員質素之低' and '中央出招之前，我們有做過什麼有建設性之事令自己走出困局',you obviously really dont understand the situation,becos our chief executive in HK is not elected by HK people,words from communists are much more important than HK people,if he is elected by HK people,then he will have much better motivation to do something good for HK long term future.
    Also,'是"五行三保" 只能在港集資，還是中央要求他們來港集資? 如果國資會批准，一流的大國企在外國交易所上市，會真的不可能? ',they did that becos it is a much better choice for them,it could boom up the trading volume and activites in HK,gave HK people short-term optimistic view,and made them think the officials in HK did something really great.
    And you think if those 五行三保 went to US to raise capital,they wouldnt have problems??with cheaper cost?for political reasons,is it feasible?

    And about 'universal suffrage',you dont have to argue with me,it seems you dont support real democracy and dont understand the meaning of this,like other selfish HK people do.
    And '議員之破壞率，及缺席率，可見一班', how 破壞? you mean protesting?banned political system reform?criticised west-kowloon cultural project?you really think those projects are good?
    And you talked abt 壟斷華西南之貨運物流,it s hilarious!you think it will really work??look at the real % change of volume of last few yrs at container terminal,and go to ShenZheng YianTian have a look,you will see.
    中國的大學尖子，有多少要多少，最好讀完書全部留下發展??? Go to all big cities in developed countries,how many of them will come back to china?
    Man,you better digest stuff betta,shold realli think abt the 'situation' in HK now.....

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  16. AnonymousSat Aug 09, 01:09:00 am GMT+8

    to jimjim兄：

    你不斷地提到香港的situation，我想請問香港現在的situation如何？因為我看不明白。

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  17. AnonymousSat Aug 09, 02:34:00 pm GMT+8

    jimjim 就正代表香港現在的 situation, 不見棺材不流淚, 整天在井底自己爽

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  18. AnonymousMon Aug 11, 05:31:00 pm GMT+8

    to 'we', you dont understand what?just raise ur questions.
    to 'anonymous'?,'整天在井底自己爽'?dont even know ur name,so I will call you mr.frog,mr.frog thinks someone '整天在井底自己爽'...how ironic is that?yes,raise ur points as well if u got any.

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  19. AnonymousSat Aug 16, 03:53:00 pm GMT+8

    我自己都係香港人，不過見到其他人如此自大地發表一些大香港主義思維！有多少覺得自己身為香港人有d羞愧.

    大家唔好怪內地人會說出如此言論，你們看香港傳媒成日係都咁唱，話特首返大陸揾着數，又話特首返大陸乞，要中央政府出手打救！霸道香港人要咩有咩，無豬肉、牛肉、米、就立刻一車車運落香港。你估內地人又盲又聾？
    如果大家倒轉身份，你都會講同樣說話！

    by the way，香港人以前及現在都一樣財大氣粗、目中無人啦！大家到香港人熱門旅遊點（如日本、泰國等）問問當地人民香港人的表現，答案都是一樣財大氣粗、目中無人、無禮貌、無文化！

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