Friday, January 25, 2008

Negative real interest rates galore!

This is from the good folks over at Money cafe.

"...今日公布通脹率是3.8%
目前匯豐優惠利率係6.75%
明日減息四分三厘後,優惠利率去到六厘。
按揭利率目前是P-3%= 3%

按揭實質利率:3% - 3.8%= -0.8%
哇,仲唔買樓????..."

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Applause to them including credit availability.

Here's a look at the US (ignoring credit availability)

Current US inflation rate: 4.08%

Current Fed Funds Rate: 3.25%

Therefore...

Interest rates - inflation rate - Real interest rate
3.25% - 4.08% = -0.83%
哇,仲唔買白銀????

11 comments:

  1. 好似計到好有邏輯咁, 其實好誤導人!

    現在的樓價接近97年的瘋狂水平, 加上"發水"情況更加嚴重, 價值何在?

    人工升咗幾多? 2007年, 港島樓價升咗30%, 九龍及新界10-15%, 條數又點計呢?

    我都睇咗moneycafe, 其實好多人都唔同意呢個計算方法.

    如果要投資, 一定要買平野, 又有好價值, 買幾隻大藍籌好過, 唔使俾利息, 仲有息派, 點解要俾錢d地產商及銀行賺?

    早幾年, 樓價咁平, d人又唔買, 成日都要等到最貴時, 大家才一窩蜂去爭!

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  2. Mr Suen,

    Do you agree:

    CNPCHK 135 每股盈利 : $0.4553港元 (FY2007 predicted )
    $0.8264港元 (FY2008 predicted )

    135每股資產淨值(港元)
    $3.24 (12/2007) ($0.81 in Cash)
    $3.02 ( 6/2007)

    I Have many informations about CNPCHK to Share with you!

    http://www.cnpc.com.cn/eng/press/newsreleases/TheFirstLineoftheThirdZhanazholOilandGasProcessingPlant.htm

    Martin

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  3. Hongkongers are getting more used to turbulance than before as indicated by recent fluctuation on stock. When people are still dreaming of a rebound, let's keep cash. I have downsized my investment on both property and stock by 30% since last Dec.

    CNPC HK (135) used to be one of my favorite, I bought at different time in 2007 at average price of 4.5 and sold all at 6.14.

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  4. ooooo...

    Interesting...

    Give me a few hours to think of some responses.

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  5. 2007年,阿克纠宾南扎区块盐下勘探成果: 发现一个亿吨级储量的油田,使这地区成为公司“十一五”重点战略接替区。


    2007年,勘探开发公司风险勘探取得重大成果,发现三个亿吨级储量的油田,使这些地区成为公司“十一五”重点战略接替区。
    http://www.cnpc.com.cn/CNPC/xwygg/中国石油天然气勘探开发公司2007年科学发展综述.htm

    在风险勘探方面,通过进一步加深研究、优化部署,取得多项重要突破。以乍得、哈萨克斯坦、南扎、阿尔及利亚等勘探项目为重点的“十一五”战略接替区均有重要进展。……阿克纠宾南扎区块盐下勘探成果不断扩大,形势喜人。前两年已发现的2号和北特鲁瓦油藏,是哈萨克斯坦10年来陆上风险勘探的重要发现。今年上半年,部署在这里的3口井测试均获高产油流,勘探形势较好。目前,该区块已具备“十一五”期间新建产能的储量基础。
    http://www.cnpc.com.cn/Paper/2007/07/27/BigPlate/260fcf5f-1208-423e-a8fa-2afe88d1f561.htm


    skysfe@hutchcity.com

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  6. I dunno where you got these numbers from...

    "... CNPCHK 135 每股盈利 : $0.4553港元 (FY2007 predicted )
    $0.8264港元 (FY2008 predicted ) ..."

    But I would hope so hahahahahha

    Anyhow, I am not that ambitious. I am hoping for profit of 40 cents in FY07.

    We'll see.

    As for Carmen,

    Buy again! You liked it at $4.5

    And the fundamentals of the company has not changed. The only fear is a permanent contraction of PE.

    But with growth in profit + dividend that shouldn't be a problem.

    Finally, Daisy...
    People like chasing expensive things as long as it goes up.

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  7. Mr Suen,

    CNPCHK 135 每股盈利 : $0.4553港元 (FY2007 predicted )
    $0.8264港元 (FY2008 predicted )

    Based on same production level as its 1st half of 2007, after tax and minority interests. without new investment ( CNPCHK has a bank balance and cash of over HK$5,300,000,000 in Jan 2008 )

    EPS:
    $0.4553港元 (USD60/Barrel)
    $0.6404港元 (USD70/Barrel)
    $0.8264港元 (USD80/Barrel)

    每股原油儲備:
    0.0375桶 / $14.62港元 Dec 2006 actual ( 50美元 x 0.0375 桶 x 7.8港元)

    0.0563 桶 / $21.96港元 Dec 2007 (predicted) (5 0美元 x 0.0375 桶 x 7.8 港元)

    http://www.dmf.go.th/petro_focus/concession.map_eng.asp
    http://www.dmf.go.th/download/monthly_eng.asp
    http://www.dmf.go.th/download/monthly.report/2007/Sep2007.xls

    What do you think?

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  8. CNPCHK have 12 successful drills that have result of OIL found in Thailand of its Block L21/43 and NC from Jan - Dec 2007


    Supporting informations?

    Just click the link : martin

    Department of Mineral Fuels Thailand

    http://www.dmf.go.th/download/monthly_eng.asp

    http://www.dmf.go.th/petro_focus/images/Concess160807.jpg

    http://www.dmf.go.th/petro_focus/images/PField160807.jpg

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  9. 柏文兄, 人文幣如何?

    While enjoy the upcoming purchasing power of RMB,just clear off the fluctuation of the US economy.

    四眼仔

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  10. Yo Martin,

    I don't whether the fields in Thailand has begun production.

    We'll see with any updates coming.

    Hey 四眼仔...

    RMB? hahahahah

    It is very strong.

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  11. Well, really don't want to defends anything, but for the enduser, the rental expenditure already equal to the down-payment, and negative mortgage interest rate already appear, if just for self-use, I REALLY don't see any reason to buy.

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